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For your video - something I have fantasised about for a long time, glad someone's doing it - My Secret World by The Golden Dawn; Gentle Tuesday by Primal Scream; Nobody's Twisting Your Arm by The Wedding Present (Amelia's in it!). >From: Peter Hahndorf >Reply-To: Peter Hahndorf >To: shalala@--hidden-- >Subject: Re: Shalala: Johnny Johnson vs Amelia Fletcher >Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 09:38:20 +0100 > >kee asked: > when's that siddeleys' compilation cd coming out? > >We found some tapes with unreleased songs and Johnny has to evaluate them >for a possible inclusion on the compilation. I'm sorry that all this takes >so long but we are making progress on it. > >In the meantime you can get The Sound Of Leamington Spa compilation which >has "Sunshine Thuggery" by the Siddeleys on it. The CD version should be at >your favourite mail-order at the end of October. > >Over the weekend I decided to start working on "The Sights Of Leamington >Spa", a video compilation of 80 indiepop classics. There were quite a few >clips out there. If you have any suggestions please let me know. And yes, >apparently there is a Siddeleys video. > >I also could write something about being more attracted to Amelia or >Johnny, but I think this would get too personal. > > >Pete >-- >Peter Hahndorf @ TweeNet Communications (pete@--hidden--) >http://www.twee.net - the indie-pop reference site > . I have a dolly mixture promo video, its a cartoon, does anyone know what track this would be? >From: "Keir Hardie" >Reply-To: "Keir Hardie" >To: pete@--hidden--, shalala@--hidden-- >Subject: Re: Shalala: Johnny Johnson vs Amelia Fletcher >Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 11:54:41 BST > >For your video - something I have fantasised about for a long time, glad >someone's doing it - My Secret World by The Golden Dawn; Gentle Tuesday by >Primal Scream; Nobody's Twisting Your Arm by The Wedding Present (Amelia's >in it!). > > >>From: Peter Hahndorf >>Reply-To: Peter Hahndorf >>To: shalala@--hidden-- >>Subject: Re: Shalala: Johnny Johnson vs Amelia Fletcher >>Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 09:38:20 +0100 >> >>kee asked: >> >when's that siddeleys' compilation cd coming out? >> >>We found some tapes with unreleased songs and Johnny has to evaluate them >>for a possible inclusion on the compilation. I'm sorry that all this takes >>so long but we are making progress on it. >> >>In the meantime you can get The Sound Of Leamington Spa compilation which >>has "Sunshine Thuggery" by the Siddeleys on it. The CD version should be >>at >>your favourite mail-order at the end of October. >> >>Over the weekend I decided to start working on "The Sights Of Leamington >>Spa", a video compilation of 80 indiepop classics. There were quite a few >>clips out there. If you have any suggestions please let me know. And yes, >>apparently there is a Siddeleys video. >> >>I also could write something about being more attracted to Amelia or >>Johnny, but I think this would get too personal. >> >> >>Pete >>-- >>Peter Hahndorf @ TweeNet Communications (pete@--hidden--) >>http://www.twee.net - the indie-pop reference site >> > > >. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ . Is there a Jazz Butcher Web Site or fan site? If so please send me the url Matthew more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ andy hitchcock a écrit : > > so you don't find some of felts lyrics a laugh? seven sisters on their way > to Avalon? Touching man, really deep. These were not his best lyrics, for sure, but they were ok Lawrence sometimes thought that writing lyrics is poetry -but it's not! His best lyrics I think were in the last lp 'me & a monkey...'. they were quite simple. > Quick and trash is fine, can't buy me love was written in a fag break. I don't know many people who also like the beatles for the lyrics > Yes I find the lyrical complexity of beat on the brat so much more > satisfying than crummy stuff by the way. Mmhhh... I don't understand, sorry :-( From: Michael Korchia > > >Michael Korchia a écrit : > Well unfortunatly i have read very few interviews by lawrence (& none since back > in > denim anyway). I just guess he wants... well actually i still don't understand > what's behind his mind. the 2 1st denim were ok, but after... > JAN: > > the lyrics on every "90's" release of lawrence's have been totally brilliant > > especially with songs such as "council houses", "job centre", "drinkin um > > bongo", and, of course, "tampax advert". i think he's acquired a fantastic > > talent of social humor with his lyrics. > sound more like 'quik & trash' lyrics to me > this kind of lyrics have been done a thousand times & i guess this is not > exactly what pop songs should be about... > > and i think that counts as "decent" > > lyrics. maybe you just don't see the wittiness of songs about getting it on > > with jean genet and that's fine. i've listened to plenty of felt and while i > > think it is really very good, i find his 90's achievements to be 100 times > > more interesting lyrically and musically. > I must admit (but you have already guessed) that i'm not perfectly fluent in > English but i don't think there are subtleties that i don't get in denim/GKM's > lyrics. while lawrence's lyrics between 85 & 89 were simple & very well written > & touching, the new lyrics are just simple & quickly written -well, that's the > way i feel it, maybe it took him years to write them > & now the music is just good for a merry-go-round > ************* > hazel-rah a écrit : > > go-kart mozart are good for a laugh, and the liner notes are hilarious, but > > the music is pure shit. i wish i'd been able to listen to it before i > > bought it, i would have chuckled and thought "good one, lawrence" ...and > > left it at the store. > i agree. it's good enough to copy it from a friend's cd, 'cause it's worth its > Euro (1 dollar) > > when i first saw jackson pollock paintings, i liked them because they were > > colorful. when i found out why he did them, i didn't like them anymore. > > go-kart mozart is funny, but it's also really bitter, and that's sad. > pollock's painting are ok, but why did he do them? money? > & this is what lawrence does now that makes me feel bitter, not his band :-(( > ******************* > andy hitchcock a écrit : > > I agree, as long as lawrence doesn't turn into richaRD Stilgoe I'm happy > who's that man? > > with his post felt output, particularly considering the amount of crap other > > ex felt members have often been involved with. Felt was an adventure, > > Lawrence is bound to want to do his own thang, stop being so precious > I haven't heard much good from ex felt member, except phil king when he was w/ > lush (although i think he didn t make a great job w/ them). & except neil scott, > who had a nice cd w/ summerhill & who did great guitars parts for peter astor. > I am still looking for news from marco thomas. he was a great bass & gtr player > w/ felt, what has he done since 1988? __^o^__ Michael Korchia mkorchia@--hidden-- Watoo Watoo Homepage : http://www.watoowatoo.net Mumbly Homepage : http://www.multimania.com/aurore/emumbly.htm Questionnaire: http://perso.worldonline.fr/watoowatoo/enquete/ more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ >From: Michael Korchia >>JAN: >>the lyrics on every "90's" release of lawrence's have been totally >>brilliant > >sound more like 'quik & trash' lyrics to me >this kind of lyrics have been done a thousand times & i guess this is >not >exactly what pop songs should be about... what exactly "should" pop songs be about? so if there are specific topics that pop music is limited to then wouldn't there again be the problem of them being "the kind of lyrics done a thousand times". i've heard thousand of dorky pop songs about love but i've never heard any about oral sex while wearing dentures except from denim. sounds like a really dull musical world if we start saying what pop songs should be about... and it's very presumptuous of you to assume that such lyrics can be dashed out quickly. it may take longer than you think. i find the lyrics quite interesting and well thought out. look at "concil houses" or "job centre", both songs that are amusing but make pretty interesting social commentary. you practically need a degree in urban studies to understand all the references in "council houses". not necessarily "quik & trash". JAN . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ and it's very presumptuous of you to assume that such lyrics can be dashed out quickly. it may take longer than you think. i find the lyrics quite interesting and well thought out. look at "concil houses" or "job centre", both songs that are amusing but make pretty interesting social commentary. you practically need a degree in urban studies to understand all the references in "council houses". not necessarily "quik & trash". probably don't need a degree at all if you are british and get the references, parochial, but the universal is in the particular as the cliche goes. Saying that the best lyrics were on felts last lp sums it up, maybe lawrence felt he cracked it and wanted to do something else, stupid and lazy and greedy is such a great two fingers to work ethic corporate britain, it pisses all over a 1000 self righteous crusty levellers songs in getting the point across >From: "Jan Geesin" >Reply-To: "Jan Geesin" >To: shalala@--hidden-- >Subject: Shalala: Re: Felt 1990 go-kart mozart 0 >Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 11:53:53 EDT > > > > >>From: Michael Korchia >>>JAN: >>>the lyrics on every "90's" release of lawrence's have been totally >>>brilliant >> >>sound more like 'quik & trash' lyrics to me >>this kind of lyrics have been done a thousand times & i guess this is >not >>exactly what pop songs should be about... > > >what exactly "should" pop songs be about? so if there are specific topics >that pop music is limited to then wouldn't there again be the problem of >them being "the kind of lyrics done a thousand times". i've heard thousand >of dorky pop songs about love but i've never heard any about oral sex while >wearing dentures except from denim. > >sounds like a really dull musical world if we start saying what pop songs >should be about... > >and it's very presumptuous of you to assume that such lyrics can be dashed >out quickly. it may take longer than you think. i find the lyrics quite >interesting and well thought out. look at "concil houses" or "job centre", >both songs that are amusing but make pretty interesting social commentary. >you practically need a degree in urban studies to understand all the >references in "council houses". not necessarily "quik & trash". > >JAN > > > > > > >. > > > > >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > _________________________________________________________________________ . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ Hi! I still wonder if the Submarines who disapeared after one beautiful 7" for Head Records "Grey skies blue/I saw the children" later formed as Compass Flow and released an album on Glass Records. My questions: Has anyone ever seen this album or does anybody have demos/live tracks from this outfit? Uwe Weigmann from Firestation told me that this album appears in all his lists, but I don`t know if they`re official catalogues. Thanky for any help. Christian -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ I am trying to sort out the tangled web that is the BMX Bandits and need information on these three bands. Can anybody help? . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ while we're on this kinda thing > i mainly missed the sarah records thing (field mice apart) on account of being heavily into creation and fire records stuff so what of the orchids and the sea urchins and how do they differ? julian. --- Keir Hardie wrote: > I am trying to sort out the tangled web that is the > BMX Bandits and need > information on these three bands. Can anybody help? > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own > public profile at > > > > The Shalala mailing list - write to: > shalala@--hidden-- > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ --- Julian Brown wrote: > while we're on this kinda thing > > i mainly missed the sarah records thing (field mice > apart) on account of being heavily into creation and > fire records stuff > so what of the orchids and the sea urchins and how do > they differ? They were both dead pop, but The Orchids had a much dreamier sort of sound and later on drifted into electronic sounds and stuff (in a nice way); whereas the Urchins always sounded more solid and tangible and went a bit rock later on. They became Delta, who are really boring, and are still doing the rounds here in Birmingham. What i really wanted to know was does anyone know what The Orchids did when Sarah called it a day? (Oooh, they *were* good at the Sarah100 do...brings shivers to my spine just thinking about it.) Oh, and this is my first post to the list, so hello everyone. Nice to be here. My name's Pete, i'm in a band called The Regulars. Hiya! p ===== Stu's better, Stu's best http://www.theregulars.co.uk ===== ____________________________________________________________ or your free @--hidden-- address at http://mail.yahoo.ie more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ orchids >What i really wanted to know was does anyone know what The >Orchids did when Sarah called it a day? (Oooh, they *were* >good at the Sarah100 do...brings shivers to my spine just >thinking about it.) One of the least qualified on this list to answer, but there's a very nice track by Diganoise (hate the name! - James something or other of the Orchids presumably in the driver's seat with a couple Swedes in tow) on Labrador's "Sleeping Single" split. Other bands (Céleste, Acid House Kings, Martin Thulin) are all ace, despite my ever more blunted appreciation for the AHK. But back to Diganoise: think female fronted soft pop, semi dancey, the direction that Striving for the Lazy Perfection was going in. Suitable for St. Etienne fans, and always bringing one or two strangers up to the booth when I've played it on nights out. Alexander -- Radio Khartoum http://www.radiokhartoum.com more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ why don't you do some d.jing here in brighton? god, we could do with somewhere that played stuff like the field mice, jasmine minks, close lobsters, hurrah! etc....... julian. --- Radio Khartoum wrote: What i really wanted to know was does anyone know > what The Orchids did when Sarah called it a day? (Oooh, they > *were* good at the Sarah100 do...brings shivers to my > spine just thinking about it.) > > One of the least qualified on this list to answer, > but there's a very > nice track by Diganoise (hate the name! - James > something or other of > the Orchids presumably in the driver's seat with a > couple Swedes in > tow) on Labrador's "Sleeping Single" split. Other > bands (Céleste, > Acid House Kings, Martin Thulin) are all ace, > despite my ever more > blunted appreciation for the AHK. But back to > Diganoise: think > female fronted soft pop, semi dancey, the direction > that Striving for > the Lazy Perfection was going in. Suitable for St. > Etienne fans, and > always bringing one or two strangers up to the booth > when I've played > it on nights out. > > Alexander > -- > Radio Khartoum http://www.radiokhartoum.com > > The Shalala mailing list - write to: > shalala@--hidden-- > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ julian I live in brighton and am looking for some where to dj, email me off list, I will be playing this sort of stuff if my sinister plans come off, its shit in brighton though aint it, for indie music, loadsa wanna be dance dj's in "pre club bars" >From: Julian Brown >Reply-To: Julian Brown >To: Radio Khartoum , shalala@--hidden-- >Subject: Re: Shalala: Boy Hairdressers/Pretty Flowers/sea urchins v the >orchids >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:31:44 -0700 (PDT) > >why don't you do some d.jing here in brighton? god, >we could do with somewhere that played stuff like the >field mice, jasmine minks, close lobsters, hurrah! >etc....... > >julian. > >--- Radio Khartoum wrote: >What i really wanted to know was does anyone know what The >Orchids did when Sarah called it a day? (Oooh, they *were* >good at the Sarah100 do...brings shivers to my spine just >thinking about it.) > > One of the least qualified on this list to answer, but there's a very nice track by Diganoise (hate the name! - James something or other of the Orchids presumably in the driver's seat with a couple Swedes in tow) on Labrador's "Sleeping Single" split. Other bands (Céleste, Acid House Kings, Martin Thulin) are all ace, despite my ever more blunted appreciation for the AHK. But back to Diganoise: think female fronted soft pop, semi dancey, the direction that Striving for the Lazy Perfection was going in. Suitable for St. Etienne fans, and always bringing one or two strangers up to the booth when I've played it on nights out. > > Alexander -- Radio Khartoum http://www.radiokhartoum.com > > The Shalala mailing list - write to: shalala@--hidden-- more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > > >__________________________________________________ > >Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! >http://mail.yahoo.com/ >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ unless i'm totally insane, i've not seen anyone mention this super swell band. the EP that came out on shinkansen this summer was brilliant. has anyone seen them play? anyone know if there's a chance of dickon angel doing a duet with neil tennant at some point in my lifetime? love and stars, joshy more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ Dickon can fuck off if he thinks he can mince around my conciousness calling himself angel, its Edwards as far as I know, I'd like to like fosca, what are they like, better/worse than clientele, does it sound like aha? >From: Josh Gaffin >Reply-To: Josh Gaffin >To: shalala@--hidden-- >Subject: Shalala: fosca >Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 20:10:54 -0400 > >unless i'm totally insane, i've not seen anyone mention this super swell >band. the EP that came out on shinkansen this summer was brilliant. > >has anyone seen them play? anyone know if there's a chance of dickon angel >doing a duet with neil tennant at some point in my lifetime? > >love and stars, > >joshy > >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ Is FOSCA anything like Dickon's previous bands: Shelley or Orlando? Where can I get these releases (Fosca) in the USA??? ** Matthew Jacobson (by appointment of Le Grand Magistery) purveyor of fine taste more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ >matthew wrote: >Where can I get these releases (Fosca) in the USA??? parasol have an exclusive with shinkansen, so i think they'll probably have their stuff. love and stars, joshy g. more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ The 'Nervous, London' ep sounds a bit Field Mice, with echoes of Galaxie 500 on the lead track; apparently the more recent stuff *still* sounds a bit Field Mice but a bit Pet Shop Boys with it. They have a very interesting site at www.fosca.com --- andy hitchcock wrote: > Dickon can fuck off if he thinks he can mince around my > conciousness calling > himself angel, its Edwards as far as I know, I'd like to > like fosca, what > are they like, better/worse than clientele, does it sound > like aha? > > From: Josh Gaffin Reply-To: Josh Gaffin To: shalala@--hidden-- Subject: Shalala: fosca Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 20:10:54 -0400 > >unless i'm totally insane, i've not seen anyone mention > this super swell band. the EP that came out on shinkansen this summer was > brilliant. > >has anyone seen them play? anyone know if there's a > chance of dickon angel doing a duet with neil tennant at some point in my > lifetime? > >love and stars, > >joshy > The Shalala mailing list - write to: > shalala@--hidden-- more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public > profile at > > > > The Shalala mailing list - write to: > shalala@--hidden-- > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > ===== Stu's better, Stu's best http://www.theregulars.co.uk ===== ____________________________________________________________ or your free @--hidden-- address at http://mail.yahoo.ie more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ great diary by dickon, which makes the dullness of the nom de guerre even more perplexing >From: pete >To: andy hitchcock , seadrift@--hidden--, >shalala@--hidden-- >Subject: Re: Shalala: fosca >Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:01:28 +0100 (BST) > > >The 'Nervous, London' ep sounds a bit Field Mice, with >echoes of Galaxie 500 on the lead track; apparently the >more recent stuff *still* sounds a bit Field Mice but a bit >Pet Shop Boys with it. > >They have a very interesting site at www.fosca.com > >--- andy hitchcock wrote: > Dickon >can fuck off if he thinks he can mince around my conciousness calling himself angel, its Edwards as far as I know, I'd like to like fosca, what are they like, better/worse than clientele, does it sound like aha? > >From: Josh Gaffin >Reply-To: Josh Gaffin >To: shalala@--hidden-- >Subject: Shalala: fosca >Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 20:10:54 -0400 >unless i'm totally insane, i've not seen anyone mention this super swell >band. the EP that came out on shinkansen this summer was brilliant. >has anyone seen them play? anyone know if there's a chance of dickon angel >doing a duet with neil tennant at some point in my lifetime? >love and stars, >joshy > The Shalala mailing list - write to: shalala@--hidden-- >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > The Shalala mailing list - write to: shalala@--hidden-- more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > > >===== >Stu's better, Stu's best >http://www.theregulars.co.uk >===== > >____________________________________________________________ > > >or your free @--hidden-- address at http://mail.yahoo.ie . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ Was it just my imagination or did the EP sound remarkably like the Sparks of old? Hmmmm... Stan >From: Josh Gaffin >Reply-To: Josh Gaffin >To: shalala@--hidden-- >Subject: Shalala: fosca >Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 20:10:54 -0400 > >unless i'm totally insane, i've not seen anyone mention this super swell >band. the EP that came out on shinkansen this summer was brilliant. > >has anyone seen them play? anyone know if there's a chance of dickon angel >doing a duet with neil tennant at some point in my lifetime? > >love and stars, > >joshy > >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ Try Parasol or Darla... Stan >From: Magistery@--hidden-- >Reply-To: Magistery@--hidden-- >To: shalala@--hidden-- >Subject: Re: Shalala: fosca >Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 03:28:54 EDT > >Is FOSCA anything like Dickon's previous bands: Shelley or Orlando? >Where can I get these releases (Fosca) in the USA??? > >** >Matthew Jacobson >(by appointment of Le Grand Magistery) >purveyor of fine taste >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ Funny eneough I just pulled out my old Wake cd "Make It Loud" having not listened to it in a while...and up comes the track "Firestone Tyres"...filled it up in a filthy garage i was using firestone tyres..drove away to another country where the roads all look the same.." Anyway it put a big smile on my face ,get out your Wake cd's while your at it...especially Obnoxious Kevin ...what a song. Bye for now ,Sile Attachment 905 bytes If you ask me the Orchids earlier Sarah stuff was magical when compared to the Sea Urchins, many songs off Lyceum spring to mind. While we're on the subject of various sea urchins people... Didn't I hear that one of The Sea Urchins later formed Pram who are an electronic kinda band - also still doing the rounds in Birmingham but I havent had chance to check them out yet. Dunc :) ____________________________________________________________ or your free @--hidden-- address at http://mail.yahoo.ie more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ On seeing this, I just had to mention that Pram's latest album, 'The Museum of Imaginary Animals', is probably the best thing I've heard this year. Kinda like a more twee Stereolab I'd say. I don't rate their older stuff though, from the clips I've heard on the internet (I think they've been going about 10 years, so they've done quite a few albums). Michael -----Original Message----- To: shalala@--hidden-- >If you ask me the Orchids earlier Sarah stuff was >magical when compared to the Sea Urchins, many songs >off Lyceum spring to mind. > >While we're on the subject of various sea urchins >people... > >Didn't I hear that one of The Sea Urchins later formed >Pram who are an electronic kinda band - also still >doing the rounds in Birmingham but I havent had chance >to check them out yet. > >Dunc :) > >____________________________________________________________ > > >or your free @--hidden-- address at http://mail.yahoo.ie >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ my two cents... i don;t think there's any sea urchins/pram connection. and i like the middle pram stuff (sargasso sea/stars are so big) a whole lot. a nice combination of dreamy atmospherics and twisted dubbed-out grooveology. my question is: what ever happened to the golden dawn?? mike np: the sounds o' silence -- slumberland records * po box 14731 berkeley, ca 94712 more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ --- popfogeys@--hidden-- wrote: > my two cents... > i don;t think there's any sea urchins/pram connection. > and i like the middle pram stuff (sargasso sea/stars are > so big) a > whole lot. a nice combination of dreamy atmospherics and > twisted > dubbed-out grooveology. Best thing they've done for my money is the 'Music for your movies' ep. Ethereal and kitsch at the same time, great tunes, and absorbing arrangements. Living in Birmingham does have its consolations, and Pram are one. They're wonderful live. > my question is: what ever happened to the golden dawn?? Did they go the same was as George Hamilton? :) p ===== Stu's better, Stu's best http://www.theregulars.co.uk ===== ____________________________________________________________ or your free @--hidden-- address at http://mail.yahoo.ie more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ Hiya, Just a little tidbit that will hopefully put a smile on some of your faces. I pulled out my old the wake record "make it loud"on.. last night and had the pleasure of listening to the track "firestone tyres"... filled it up in a filthy garage I was using firestone tyres...drove away to another country where the roads all look the same...aaaa. Bye for now, Sile ----- Original Message ----- To: "Julian Brown" ; "Keir Hardie" ; Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 7:21 AM orchids > > --- Julian Brown wrote: while we're on this kinda thing i mainly missed the sarah records thing (field mice apart) on account of being heavily into creation and fire records stuff so what of the orchids and the sea urchins and how do they differ? > > They were both dead pop, but The Orchids had a much > dreamier sort of sound and later on drifted into electronic > sounds and stuff (in a nice way); whereas the Urchins > always sounded more solid and tangible and went a bit rock > later on. They became Delta, who are really boring, and are > still doing the rounds here in Birmingham. > > What i really wanted to know was does anyone know what The > Orchids did when Sarah called it a day? (Oooh, they *were* > good at the Sarah100 do...brings shivers to my spine just > thinking about it.) > > Oh, and this is my first post to the list, so hello > everyone. Nice to be here. My name's Pete, i'm in a band > called The Regulars. Hiya! > > p > > > ===== > Stu's better, Stu's best > http://www.theregulars.co.uk > ===== > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > or your free @--hidden-- address at http://mail.yahoo.ie > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ the golden dawn actually have a "new" seven inch that's coming out on heaven records sometime soon. it's stuff that was recorded ages and ages ago and i think the cover is something like paul & sheggi from the fat tulips feet. love & stars, joshy mike wrote: >my question is: what ever happened to the golden dawn?? more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ What? For reals? Heaven Records is not only still going, but putting out a Golden Dawn 7"? That's the best news I've heard all year! This better not be a joke...We here in the East SF Bay Area get pretty serious about our Golden Dawn. :) Andrew ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 12:10 AM > the golden dawn actually have a "new" seven inch that's coming out on > heaven records sometime soon. it's stuff that was recorded ages and ages > ago and i think the cover is something like paul & sheggi from the fat > tulips feet. > > love & stars, > > joshy > > > mike wrote: > > my question is: what ever happened to the golden dawn?? > > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ have heaven got a web site? >From: Josh Gaffin >Reply-To: Josh Gaffin >To: shalala@--hidden-- >Subject: Shalala: What became of the golden dawn >Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 03:10:10 -0400 > >the golden dawn actually have a "new" seven inch that's coming out on >heaven records sometime soon. it's stuff that was recorded ages and ages >ago and i think the cover is something like paul & sheggi from the fat >tulips feet. > >love & stars, > >joshy > > >mike wrote: > > >>my question is: what ever happened to the golden dawn?? > >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ 'ang on a sec! Heaven? Paul & Sheggy? Fat Tulips? Are they still doing things? Any info appreciate! Miguel ----- Mensaje original ----- De: Josh Gaffin Para: Enviado: jueves 14 de septiembre de 2000 9:10 Asunto: Shalala: What became of the golden dawn > the golden dawn actually have a "new" seven inch that's coming out on > heaven records sometime soon. it's stuff that was recorded ages and ages > ago and i think the cover is something like paul & sheggi from the fat > tulips feet. > > love & stars, > > joshy > > > mike wrote: > > my question is: what ever happened to the golden dawn?? > > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ heaven records are indeed still going! yell at mattie j. via heavenrecords@--hidden--. sheggi lives in burton joyce's sister city, new york, where she contributes to the military-industrial complex. musically, she's been collaborating with the brilliant nottingham band, lorna, who've done a six minute version of the melons "from hell to helsinki." (look for lorna at http://startrip.freeserve.co.uk) paul lives in london and is a teacher! love & stars, joshy g. miguel wrote: >'ang on a sec! > >Heaven? Paul & Sheggy? Fat Tulips? > >Are they still doing things? > >Any info appreciate! > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ The golden dawn single is indeed out & even manages a Sarah pisstake on the label! I got mine from heaven records a while ago. drop a line to matt at heavenrecords@--hidden-- or check out http://spikey.com/fattulips/main.html for a laff. hope this helps Paul. -----Original Message----- Josh Gaffin Sent: 14 September 2000 00:10 To: shalala@--hidden-- the golden dawn actually have a "new" seven inch that's coming out on heaven records sometime soon. it's stuff that was recorded ages and ages ago and i think the cover is something like paul & sheggi from the fat tulips feet. love & stars, joshy mike wrote: >my question is: what ever happened to the golden dawn?? more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ Is the piss take on the label or on the sleeve, those feet I heard being mentioned are remarkably familiar territory? >From: "Paul Dean" >Reply-To: "Paul Dean" >To: "Josh Gaffin" , , > >Subject: RE: Shalala: What became of the golden dawn / Heaven stuff >Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:36:05 -0700 > >The golden dawn single is indeed out & even manages a Sarah pisstake on the >label! I got mine from heaven records a while ago. > >drop a line to matt at heavenrecords@--hidden-- or check out >http://spikey.com/fattulips/main.html for a laff. > >hope this helps > >Paul. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: shalala@--hidden-- [mailto:shalala@--hidden--]On Behalf Of >Josh Gaffin >Sent: 14 September 2000 00:10 >To: shalala@--hidden-- >Subject: Shalala: What became of the golden dawn > > >the golden dawn actually have a "new" seven inch that's coming out on >heaven records sometime soon. it's stuff that was recorded ages and ages >ago and i think the cover is something like paul & sheggi from the fat >tulips feet. > >love & stars, > >joshy > > >mike wrote: > > my question is: what ever happened to the golden dawn?? > >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > > >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ oh it's times like this that i wish i wasn't 1500 miles away from my record collection the sleeve says SARAH RIP on the back & one side of the label has the SARAH flowers design with HEAVEN in the boxes instead of SARAH....Still making sense? i think it says somewhere that the songs were from the early 90's. I will check though....if anyone cares! all this golden dawn chatter has got me in the mood to watch my old transmission video with the georgie porgie's dead video! i think its a funny clip, but Victor Hernandez cried tears of true joy upon viewing. By the time he'd seen the popguns/heavenly/orchids clips we had to scoop him off the floor.............. Later PD. -----Original Message----- Sent: 14 September 2000 10:06 To: Paul.Dean@--hidden--; seadrift@--hidden--; shalala@--hidden--; micla@--hidden-- Is the piss take on the label or on the sleeve, those feet I heard being mentioned are remarkably familiar territory? >From: "Paul Dean" >Reply-To: "Paul Dean" >To: "Josh Gaffin" , , > >Subject: RE: Shalala: What became of the golden dawn / Heaven stuff >Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:36:05 -0700 > >The golden dawn single is indeed out & even manages a Sarah pisstake on the >label! I got mine from heaven records a while ago. > >drop a line to matt at heavenrecords@--hidden-- or check out >http://spikey.com/fattulips/main.html for a laff. > >hope this helps > >Paul. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: shalala@--hidden-- [mailto:shalala@--hidden--]On Behalf Of >Josh Gaffin >Sent: 14 September 2000 00:10 >To: shalala@--hidden-- >Subject: Shalala: What became of the golden dawn > > >the golden dawn actually have a "new" seven inch that's coming out on >heaven records sometime soon. it's stuff that was recorded ages and ages >ago and i think the cover is something like paul & sheggi from the fat >tulips feet. > >love & stars, > >joshy > > >mike wrote: > > my question is: what ever happened to the golden dawn?? > >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > > >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ Skippy from March Records writes: >please find out about the two le grand magistery events on saturday and >sunday as well which should complete your trip to new york. So, here's a very quick update to let you know that there are many LE GRAND MAGISTERY events planned for CMJ. I can't get into the final details just yet (although by this weekend everything should be figured out), but I will at least tell you the days, so that some of you can try and make your trip to NYC correspond with these dates: Le Grand Magistery related events will take place: Wednesday, October 18 (this is actually the night before CMJ starts) Friday, October 20 (in the early afternoon) Saturday, October 21 (in the day and in the night) Sunday, October 22 (in the night) So mark your calendars, talk to your travel agent, and get ready to join Le Grand Magistery and our artists and friends who will be performing: -A Girl Called Eddy -Baxendale -Elkie Somersault -Flare -Milano -Momus -My Life Story -Stars -Toog -Mr. Wright Specific details to follow... more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ I remember seeing the 'My Secret World' video on Transmission, or was it Rockin' In The UK then. Fantastic. I have a six hour video somewhere of Rockin' In The UK, Transmission and Snub TV. Also features Alan McGee with the big hair and shades! PS does NOBODY have any info on The Boy Hairdressers/Pretty Flowers/Faith Healers? . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ The Boy Hairdressers had done one fine 12" called Golden Showers. It was released in 1987 on 53rd and 3rd. The band members were Norman Blake, Francis McDonald and Raymond McGinley, all three later formed Teenage Fanclub. Also involded were Joe McAlinden, later fame of Groovy Little Numbers, BMX-Bandits and now in Superstar. You can find two more songs by The Boy Hairdressers on the B-Side of the first Teenage Fanclub 7", which was called "Everythings Flows". I must honestly say that i never heard of the pretty flowers. I only remembers a band called the pink flowers. best wishes, uwe weigmann (firestation Tower Records) http://come.to/firetower >From: "Keir Hardie" >Reply-To: "Keir Hardie" >To: shalala@--hidden-- >Subject: Shalala: Golden Dawn/BMX Bandits >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 11:40:45 BST > >I remember seeing the 'My Secret World' video on Transmission, or was it >Rockin' In The UK then. Fantastic. I have a six hour video somewhere of >Rockin' In The UK, Transmission and Snub TV. Also features Alan McGee with >the big hair and shades! > >PS does NOBODY have any info on The Boy Hairdressers/Pretty Flowers/Faith >Healers? > > >. > > > > >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > _________________________________________________________________________ . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ well you know what the pet shop boys can do..... that's right, where the sun don't shine. julian. --- pete wrote: > > The 'Nervous, London' ep sounds a bit Field Mice, > with > echoes of Galaxie 500 on the lead track; apparently > the > more recent stuff *still* sounds a bit Field Mice > but a bit > Pet Shop Boys with it. > > They have a very interesting site at www.fosca.com > > --- andy hitchcock wrote: > Dickon > can fuck off if he thinks he can mince around my conciousness calling himself angel, its Edwards as far as I know, I'd > like to like fosca, what are they like, better/worse than clientele, does > it sound like aha? >From: Josh Gaffin >Reply-To: Josh Gaffin >To: shalala@--hidden-- >Subject: Shalala: fosca >Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 20:10:54 -0400 >unless i'm totally insane, i've not seen anyone > mention this super swell >band. the EP that came out on shinkansen this > summer was brilliant. >has anyone seen them play? anyone know if there's > a chance of dickon angel >doing a duet with neil tennant at some point in > my lifetime? >love and stars, >joshy > >The Shalala mailing list - write to: shalala@--hidden-- >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > Share information about yourself, create your own > public profile at > The Shalala mailing list - write to: shalala@--hidden-- more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > > > ===== > Stu's better, Stu's best > http://www.theregulars.co.uk > ===== > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Get your free @--hidden-- address at > http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @--hidden-- address at > http://mail.yahoo.ie > > The Shalala mailing list - write to: > shalala@--hidden-- > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ I heard fosca on peel the other night, not good, not good at all, the field mice session was crap as well. Is there anything on shinkanson worth getting because its good and not out of sentiment or cos of collecting reasons? >From: Julian Brown >To: pete , andy hitchcock , >seadrift@--hidden--, shalala@--hidden-- >Subject: Re: Shalala: fosca/pet shop effing boys >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:38:57 -0700 (PDT) > >well you know what the pet shop boys can do..... >that's right, where the sun don't shine. > >julian. > >--- pete wrote: > > The 'Nervous, London' ep sounds a bit Field Mice, with echoes of Galaxie 500 on the lead track; apparently the more recent stuff *still* sounds a bit Field Mice but a bit Pet Shop Boys with it. > > They have a very interesting site at www.fosca.com > > --- andy hitchcock wrote: Dickon can fuck off if he thinks he can mince around my > conciousness calling > himself angel, its Edwards as far as I know, I'd like to > like fosca, what > are they like, better/worse than clientele, does it sound > like aha? > > >From: Josh Gaffin > >Reply-To: Josh Gaffin > >To: shalala@--hidden-- > >Subject: Shalala: fosca > >Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 20:10:54 -0400 > > >unless i'm totally insane, i've not seen anyone mention > this super swell > >band. the EP that came out on shinkansen this summer was > brilliant. > > >has anyone seen them play? anyone know if there's a > chance of dickon angel > >doing a duet with neil tennant at some point in my > lifetime? > > >love and stars, > > >joshy > > > >The Shalala mailing list - write to: > shalala@--hidden-- > >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public > profile at > > > The Shalala mailing list - write to: > shalala@--hidden-- > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > > ===== Stu's better, Stu's best http://www.theregulars.co.uk ===== > >____________________________________________________________ Get your free @--hidden-- address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @--hidden-- address at http://mail.yahoo.ie > > The Shalala mailing list - write to: shalala@--hidden-- more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > > >__________________________________________________ > >Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! >http://mail.yahoo.com/ . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ i have trembling blue stars second album > it starts well but kinda tales off > may be the first album is better > i heard a few tracks from it and they are very pleasent indeed. julian. --- andy hitchcock wrote: > I heard fosca on peel the other night, not good, not > good at all, the field > mice session was crap as well. Is there anything on > shinkanson worth getting > because its good and not out of sentiment or cos of > collecting reasons? > > From: Julian Brown To: pete , andy hitchcock > , seadrift@--hidden--, shalala@--hidden-- Subject: Re: Shalala: fosca/pet shop effing boys Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:38:57 -0700 (PDT) > >well you know what the pet shop boys can do..... that's right, where the sun don't shine. > >julian. > >--- pete wrote: > The 'Nervous, London' ep sounds a bit Field > Mice, > with > echoes of Galaxie 500 on the lead track; > apparently > the > more recent stuff *still* sounds a bit Field > Mice > but a bit > Pet Shop Boys with it. > They have a very interesting site at > www.fosca.com > --- andy hitchcock wrote: > Dickon > can fuck off if he thinks he can mince around my > > conciousness calling > > himself angel, its Edwards as far as I know, > I'd > like to > > like fosca, what > > are they like, better/worse than clientele, > does > it sound > > like aha? > > > From: Josh Gaffin > Reply-To: Josh Gaffin > > To: shalala@--hidden-- > Subject: Shalala: fosca > Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 20:10:54 -0400 > > > >unless i'm totally insane, i've not seen > anyone > mention > > this super swell > band. the EP that came out on shinkansen this > summer was > > brilliant. > > > >has anyone seen them play? anyone know if > there's > a > > chance of dickon angel > doing a duet with neil tennant at some point > in > my > > lifetime? > > > >love and stars, > > > >joshy > > > > > The Shalala mailing list - write to: > > shalala@--hidden-- > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > to unsubscribe write to > listadmin@--hidden-- > > > > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail > at > > > Share information about yourself, create your > own > public > > profile at > > > > > > The Shalala mailing list - write to: > > shalala@--hidden-- > > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > > to unsubscribe write to > listadmin@--hidden-- > > ===== > Stu's better, Stu's best > http://www.theregulars.co.uk > ===== > > >____________________________________________________________ > > Get your free @--hidden-- address at > http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @--hidden-- address at > http://mail.yahoo.ie > > The Shalala mailing list - write to: > shalala@--hidden-- > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > > __________________________________________________ > >Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from > anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own > public profile at > > > > The Shalala mailing list - write to: > shalala@--hidden-- > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > __________________________________________________ Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ >the field mice session was crap as well. Is there anything on >shinkanson worth getting because its good and not out of sentiment >or cos of collecting reasons? Can we assume you were talking about the Trembling Blue Stars session? I missed it on the web because I was taking a long nap after an early flight. I don't know how good the session was, but the new Trembling Blue Stars album is great (as are the other two) and they all stack up better than For Keeps for me. But song-for-song it might be a different story... I'm also very fond of Cody, although I seem to be in the minority on this count. They're not very pop-sounding really so maybe that's where the problem lies. -- Brian Pennington, aka Mick McMick | cellophanesky@--hidden-- | ICQ# 39021436 Sandcastle Records: the Cellophane Sky: "Better a tear of truth than smiling lies." - Duncan Browne more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ havent heard cody, last tbs lp, had some good stuff on it, session was yuk, and if they recorded a jackson browne song cos peel likes j browne, then what abunch of arselickers they are >From: Brian Pennington >Reply-To: Brian Pennington >To: shalala@--hidden-- >Subject: Shalala: Shinkansen >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 22:31:33 -0400 > >>the field mice session was crap as well. Is there anything on >>shinkanson worth getting because its good and not out of sentiment >>or cos of collecting reasons? > > Can we assume you were talking about the Trembling Blue Stars >session? I missed it on the web because I was taking a long nap after >an early flight. I don't know how good the session was, but the new >Trembling Blue Stars album is great (as are the other two) and they >all stack up better than For Keeps for me. But song-for-song it might >be a different story... I'm also very fond of Cody, although I seem >to be in the minority on this count. They're not very pop-sounding >really so maybe that's where the problem lies. >-- >Brian Pennington, aka Mick McMick | cellophanesky@--hidden-- | ICQ# 39021436 >Sandcastle Records: >the Cellophane >Sky: >"Better a tear of truth than smiling lies." - Duncan Browne >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ [burt@--hidden--] thanks. i'll do that as soon as I figure out how: Macalester College uses a funky email program called mulberry which i've never heard of... s --On Monday, September 18, 2000 8:41 AM +0100 Peter Hahndorf wrote:rr > Hi Stephen, > > you are changing Universities too ofter :-) > > because of your new address your last two shalala messages didn't make it > through. > > I changed your address, but you need to repost the last two messages to > the list. > > cheers > > > Pete > -- > Peter Hahndorf @ TweeNet Communications (pete@--hidden--) > http://www.twee.net - the indie-pop reference site Tried to post this yesterday but it bounced 'cause I have a new email address (thanks, Peter H, for explaining)... Wonder whether Andy's general disillusion w/ Shinkansen nowadays isn't really disillusion w/ Bob Wratten? I didn't _mind_ Broken by Whispers but I basically never listen to it, and I've come to feel as if three soft-slow-albums-with-one-rock-song-per of breakup songs don't take TB*s far past the point of diminishing returns. But everything ELSE on Shinkansen's been great: the more Cody the better. And they are indeed pop, just like Hal and the last Brighter EP were pop: for my pounds sterling, they're better than Brighter-- more various, with more energy... and supercatchy... Waiting for my new employer to pay me, so that I can buy records again, s more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ Waiting for my new employer to pay me, so that I can buy records again I've always been ambivalent about mr Bob, didnt like the field mice, loved the ist tbs stuff bored by the second lp, 3rd patchy but where good very very good, but you may have a point, the session even sounded claptonesque at points, dickons warblings dont help my mood >From: burt@--hidden-- >Reply-To: burt@--hidden-- >To: shalala@--hidden-- >Subject: Shalala: Shinkansen's still wonderful, viz.: Cody >Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:50:39 -0500 > > > >Tried to post this yesterday but it bounced 'cause I have a new email >address (thanks, Peter H, for explaining)... > > >Wonder whether Andy's general disillusion w/ Shinkansen nowadays isn't >really disillusion w/ Bob Wratten? I didn't _mind_ Broken by Whispers but >I basically never listen to it, and I've come to feel as if three >soft-slow-albums-with-one-rock-song-per of breakup songs don't take TB*s >far past the point of diminishing returns. But everything ELSE on >Shinkansen's been great: the more Cody the better. And they are indeed pop, >just like Hal and the last Brighter EP were pop: for my pounds sterling, >they're better than Brighter-- more various, with more energy... and >supercatchy... >Waiting for my new employer to pay me, so that I can buy records again, s > > > > > > >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ Hello, I have Billy Mackenzie's Beyond the Sun and it's one of the best records I've ever listened to. The sad songs on it are so beautiful... I'd like to know if there are any of his or The Associates old records that sound like "Beyond...". Mackenzie & Haig is also very good but is not what I was expecting after listening to Beyond The Sun. Also, there's a double cd compilation by The Associates out with some old demos on it. For someone like me who doesn't have any of their records, should I still buy it? BTW, it's the first time I post a message here. Thanks, Erico __________________________________________________ Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ RE : The Boy Hairdressers : Sorry to confuse things further, But Norman Blake was also in The Clouds during the 80's - Not sure whether it was after The Boy Hairdressers or before or during. I checked the Golden Dawn single on Heaven - the front features Paul & Aggi giving the 'forks' & the back has their feet. not too sure of the significance! The 2 songs on the 7 were also available on compilations : No Reason Why on: Airspace II - The Sequel (LP)and Luminous on: And They Call It Pop (K7) on Fragrant (thanks to tweenet). Tweenet also list the following track by the GD Chase My Blues Away on and Fire on : Everlasting Happiness (K7) and The Sun Never Shines on: The Velvet Dawn Flexi (FLX) on Raving Pop Blast! Records (1989) Does anyone have these tracks & if so are they worth me begging you to tape them for me! Paul. p.s I'm considering making some 'Esurient For Change' t-shirts. However the minimum order is 25 shirts & I don't have that many friends 8-( so if anyone is interested in joining me in celebrating one of the best labels of the 80's/90's, get in touch (the cost would be a paltry $10 plus shipping)....sorry if this contravenes list rules! -----Original Message----- Keir Hardie Sent: 16 September 2000 04:41 To: shalala@--hidden-- I remember seeing the 'My Secret World' video on Transmission, or was it Rockin' In The UK then. Fantastic. I have a six hour video somewhere of Rockin' In The UK, Transmission and Snub TV. Also features Alan McGee with the big hair and shades! PS does NOBODY have any info on The Boy Hairdressers/Pretty Flowers/Faith Healers? . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ paul wrote: >I checked the Golden Dawn single on Heaven - the front features Paul & Aggi >giving the 'forks' & the back has their feet. not too sure of the >significance! sorry, that would be paul & sheggi. for some reason, i'm a bit obsessive when it comes to things sheggi-wise. love & stars, joshy more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ That's right, I heard that... I've got the Jenny Nowhere flexi, which one is he on the cover? It's hard to tell with all those fantastic fringes... >From: "Paul Dean" >Reply-To: "Paul Dean" >To: >Subject: RE: Shalala: Golden Dawn/ boy hairdressers >Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:17:36 -0700 > >RE : The Boy Hairdressers : Sorry to confuse things further, But Norman >Blake was also in The Clouds during the 80's - Not sure whether it was >after >The Boy Hairdressers or before or during. > >I checked the Golden Dawn single on Heaven - the front features Paul & Aggi >giving the 'forks' & the back has their feet. not too sure of the >significance! > >The 2 songs on the 7 were also available on compilations : No Reason Why >on: >Airspace II - The Sequel (LP)and Luminous on: And They Call It Pop (K7) on >Fragrant (thanks to tweenet). > >Tweenet also list the following track by the GD >Chase My Blues Away on and Fire on : Everlasting Happiness (K7) and >The Sun Never Shines on: The Velvet Dawn Flexi (FLX) on Raving Pop Blast! >Records (1989) > >Does anyone have these tracks & if so are they worth me begging you to tape >them for me! > >Paul. > >p.s I'm considering making some 'Esurient For Change' t-shirts. However the >minimum order is 25 shirts & I don't have that many friends 8-( so if >anyone >is interested in joining me in celebrating one of the best labels of the >80's/90's, get in touch (the cost would be a paltry $10 plus >shipping)....sorry if this contravenes list rules! > > >-----Original Message----- >From: shalala@--hidden-- [mailto:shalala@--hidden--]On Behalf Of >Keir Hardie >Sent: 16 September 2000 04:41 >To: shalala@--hidden-- >Subject: Shalala: Golden Dawn/BMX Bandits > > >I remember seeing the 'My Secret World' video on Transmission, or was it >Rockin' In The UK then. Fantastic. I have a six hour video somewhere of >Rockin' In The UK, Transmission and Snub TV. Also features Alan McGee with >the big hair and shades! > >PS does NOBODY have any info on The Boy Hairdressers/Pretty Flowers/Faith >Healers? > > >. > > > > >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > > >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ I suppose if you want to be all completist, one could also add that the Boy Hairdressers' track "The Assumption as an Elevator" also appeared on a Shelter compilation and on the 53rd & 3rd compilation Fun While it Lasted. What a wonderful song it is! "I wanna sleeeep with you I waaant to take you hooommmee" (please correct me if I've been mishearing these lyrics all these years) It's kinda got a sound as drunk as I was when I met Raymond McGinley a few years back. A nicer popstar I could never hope to meet, pretty surprised that I knew who the Boy Hairdressers were too! I remember talking a lot about Scott Walker with him. A very nice guy. yours, N. Paul Dean wrote: > RE : The Boy Hairdressers : Sorry to confuse things further, But Norman > Blake was also in The Clouds during the 80's - Not sure whether it was after > The Boy Hairdressers or before or during. > > I checked the Golden Dawn single on Heaven - the front features Paul & Aggi > giving the 'forks' & the back has their feet. not too sure of the > significance! > > The 2 songs on the 7 were also available on compilations : No Reason Why on: > Airspace II - The Sequel (LP)and Luminous on: And They Call It Pop (K7) on > Fragrant (thanks to tweenet). > > Tweenet also list the following track by the GD > Chase My Blues Away on and Fire on : Everlasting Happiness (K7) and > The Sun Never Shines on: The Velvet Dawn Flexi (FLX) on Raving Pop Blast! > Records (1989) > > Does anyone have these tracks & if so are they worth me begging you to tape > them for me! > > Paul. > > p.s I'm considering making some 'Esurient For Change' t-shirts. However the > minimum order is 25 shirts & I don't have that many friends 8-( so if anyone > is interested in joining me in celebrating one of the best labels of the > 80's/90's, get in touch (the cost would be a paltry $10 plus > shipping)....sorry if this contravenes list rules! > > -----Original Message----- > From: shalala@--hidden-- [mailto:shalala@--hidden--]On Behalf Of > Keir Hardie > Sent: 16 September 2000 04:41 > To: shalala@--hidden-- > Subject: Shalala: Golden Dawn/BMX Bandits > > I remember seeing the 'My Secret World' video on Transmission, or was it > Rockin' In The UK then. Fantastic. I have a six hour video somewhere of > Rockin' In The UK, Transmission and Snub TV. Also features Alan McGee with > the big hair and shades! > > PS does NOBODY have any info on The Boy Hairdressers/Pretty Flowers/Faith > Healers? > > > . > > > > > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > > > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > Attachment 3.6 KBytes Paul how much would shipping cost to the uk? I was thinking of doing A personal one any way, definately a claim one, I dont know what kev esurient would make of his aims ending up as a slogan on a t shirt, but fuck it p.s I'm considering making some 'Esurient For Change' t-shirts. However >the minimum order is 25 shirts & I don't have that many friends 8-( so if >anyone is interested in joining me in celebrating one of the best labels of the 80's/90's, get in touch (the cost would be a paltry $10 plus shipping)....sorry if this contravenes list rules! > > -----Original Message----- From: shalala@--hidden-- [mailto:shalala@--hidden--]On Behalf Of Keir Hardie Sent: 16 September 2000 04:41 To: shalala@--hidden-- Subject: Shalala: Golden Dawn/BMX Bandits > > I remember seeing the 'My Secret World' video on Transmission, or was it Rockin' In The UK then. Fantastic. I have a six hour video somewhere >of Rockin' In The UK, Transmission and Snub TV. Also features Alan McGee >with the big hair and shades! > > PS does NOBODY have any info on The Boy Hairdressers/Pretty >Flowers/Faith Healers? > > > > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > > . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ For what's it worth, seing that The Jedrzej Dmochowski Appreciation Society is now a public mailing list not restricted to a chosen few and that a couple of recent threads actually renewed my interest in this forum, Ithought I might as well contribute once again after a year of lurkdom. I. The Television Personalities Website http://www.popfloor.com/tvps/ II. The Jazz Butcher Website http://www.jazzbutcher.com/ III. The Revolving Paint Dream / Biff Bang Pow! My humble approach on partly solving the relative mystery that was The Revolving Paint Dream can still be found in the archives ... http://www.twee.net/shalala/199903/msg00011.html To the best of my memory, Andrew Innes and Christine Wanless are also credited on the sleeve of the second Biff Bang Pow! LP, _The Girl That Runs The Beat Hotel_. Fair enough considering that "Someone Stole My Wheels", "The Happiest Girl In The World" and "If I Die" are basically Revolving Paint Dream songs. In fact, the cancelled second Revolving Paint Dream 7" sheduled for September '84 (!) was supposed to feature both "Wheels On My Scooter" (= "Someone Stole My Wheels") and "Sunny Days" in exactly the same versions that appeared a couple of years later on the "Someone Stole My Wheels" 7"/12" under the moniker of J.C. Brouchard With Biff Bang Pow!. More recently I learned from David Musker (The Televison Personalities / Jasmine Minks / Slaughter Joe) that he also played on a fair share of Revolving Paint Dream recordings. Besides, is anyone in the possession of the demos by Christine's other band at the time, The Formica Tops (who were also supposed to release a single on Creation Records back in the early days) ? Only thought I'd ask again now that the number of subscribers has increased considerably, I'd love a copy of said recordings (and any unissued stuff by The Revolving Paint Dream, for that matter). IV. The Pretty Flowers / The Boy Hairdressers / The Clouds The Pretty Flowers preceded The BMX Bandits and featured Duglas T. Stewart, Sean Dickson (The BMX Bandits / The Soup Dragons / High Fidelity), Norman Blake (The BMX Bandits / The Boy Hairdressers / The Clouds / Teenage Fanclub / The Famous Monsters) and Duglas' early muse Frances McKee (The Vaselines / Suckle). A couple of lines on the history of the short-lived combo can be found in the liner notes of "The 53rd & 3rd Years" retrospective LP/CD by The BMX Bandits. In fact, songs like "E 102" and "Strawberry Sunday" were old songs by The Pretty Flowers. After Frances broke Duglas' heart by running off with Eugene Kelly (The Vaselines / Captain America / Eugenius), Duglas, Norman and Sean continued as The BMX Bandits with Jim McCulloch, Joe McAlinden (The Boy Hairdressers / The Groovy Little Numbers / Superstar) and Francis MacDonald (who played in numerous other Glaswegian bands, most notably The Boy Hairdressers, Teenage Fanclub and The Pastels). The Boy Hairdressers was the delightful and humorous side project of Norman, Joe and Francis which also featured Raymond McGinley (Teenage Fanclub) and Jim Lambie. In short, The Boy Hairdressers was an early incarnation of Teenage Fanclub. Unfortunately they only released the much sought after "Golden Shower" b/w "Tidalwave" c/w "The Assumption As An Elevator" 12" (UK/53rd & 3rd Records AGARR 12T/1987). As was already mentioned, "The Assumption As An Elevator" can also be found on the less scarce _Another Ideal Guesthouse_ LP and the _Fun While It Lasted_ CD. It might well be that "Primary Education" and "Speedster" from the "Everything Flows" debut 7" by Teenage Fanclub were originally recorded as demos for The Boy Hairdressers during a later stage of their existence, but those songs are certainly no indication of what can be expected from the marvellous "Golden Showers" 12". It is accurate that Norman Blake was in The Clouds, but The Charnley Brothers (who are not exactly held in high regard in Glasgow from what I've heard) chose not to credit him for the contribution in the studio (guitar and background vocals). I witnessed a decent live show by one of the subsequent bands of The Charnley Brothers in Glasgow back in 1994, but I doubt they released a record under the moniker at the time. IV. The Sea Urchins / Delta The Sea Urchins were my favourite Sarah Records band and I strongly encourage anyone without a copy to trace down the _Stardust_ retrospective LP/CD and the "Recorded 30.10.88" 7". I'd also like to mention that, in my humble opinion, Delta is certainly worth a listen. Songs such as "Tonight" and "Take Away My Pain" from the "Gun" CDs are amongst the most beloved melancholic ballads in my record collection and pretty much in the vein of the "Recorded 30.10.88" 7" by The Sea Urchins. It seems that the debut album by Delta is imminent for release, let's hope it is more consistent than the _Laughing Mostly_ CD. V. The Golden Dawn / The Catalysts / Meth O.D. >The Golden Dawn - Luminous 7" > >The 2 songs on the 7" were also available on compilations : >No Reason Why on: Airspace II - The Sequel (LP) and >Luminous on: And They Call It Pop (K7) on Fragrant >(thanks to tweenet). Unfortunately I haven't obtained my copy of the "Luminous" 7" from Heaven Records yet, but I trust that the flipside features the full version of "No Reason Why" rather than the "edited" (read: fucked up) version that can be found on the _Airspace II_ LP. >>Tweenet also lists the following track by the GD >>Chase My Blues Away on and Fire on : Everlasting Happiness (K7) >>and The Sun Never Shines on: The Velvet Dawn Flexi (FLX) on Raving >>Pop Blast! Records (1989) "Chase My Blues Away" and "Fire" are my favourite songs by The Golden Dawn, that's why they were featured on my humble "Everlasting Happiness" compilation-tape. "The Sun Never Shines" is a poor recording of a decent song which was featured on the flexi without the consent of The Golden Dawn (unless you count in the consent of a former bass player). I happen to know this kind of trivia because singer and songwriter Robert Smith was a penfriend back in the day, last I heard *from* Robert personally (owing the simultaneous move of house) in 1992 was that he founded a band called Sed-ee-ment. Funnily enough, that's not the last I heard *about* and saw *of* Robert. During my Glaswegian studies back in 1994/95 I was introduced to a fellow in King Tut's Wah Wah Hut by a common acquaintance. The fellow asked about my motivations for studying in Glasgow, which were naturally my musical preferences. Following the enquiry about bands I named the usual suspects and finally added The Golden Dawn. After catching his breath with excitement that I even knew The Golden Dawn and the fact that they hailed from Glasgow, the fellow made himself known as Kenneth "Kennie" Norrie, formerly guitarist of The Golden Dawn and Christine's Cat (a side project of The Golden Dawn who only issued the flexi on Sarah Records). Unfortunately Kennie hadn't been in touch with Robert for a long time, but he knew that Robert played in a band called Meth O. D. - coincidentally, I attended a (passable) Meth O. D. live show only a couple of days prior to that night. And as if the world wasn't small enough, the acquaintance who introduced me to Kennie that night is by now the most appreciated Glaswegian P!O!P! songwriter since Donovan. The offspring of that night is a complete collection of recordings by The Golden Dawn as well as extremely lovely and jangly demos by one of Kennie's other bands at the time, The Catalysts. A couple of years later I saw releases by Meth O. D. in a record catalogue and naturally placed an order, but while it was the same band I'm afraid to say that their music is certainly not my cup of tea, which is a pity considering my fondness for The Golden Dawn. _They Could Have Been Bigger Than The Jesus And Mary Chain_ Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ despite getting involved with a fight with them, hating the whiney vocals and getting rid of my sea urchins singles, they are actually a band that I have reassessed and rather miss now musically. Sorry have to totally dismiss your opinion of delta and I guess I'm not the only one, Delta were dull dull dull alt pub country, in stark contrast to the youthful/minimal pop intensity of clingfilm on the sea urchins kvatch flexi I have some boy hairdressers demos, the songs were mentioned in various are you scared to get happys, they are superb and its such a pity that they didnt get a release. If you have ever heard a band called the mayfields trolling around in the late eighties, that gives a sort of clue to the sound, but without the annoying 3rd rate tweeness, in other words, it had a great guitar and glockenspiel link up >From: Perfection As A Hipster >Reply-To: Perfection As A Hipster >To: The Jedrzej Dmochowski Appreciation Society >Subject: Shalala: "Swinging With The Pygmies" # 05 >Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 18:13:24 +0200 (MET DST) > >For what's it worth, > >seing that The Jedrzej Dmochowski Appreciation Society is now a public >mailing list not restricted to a chosen few and that a couple of recent >threads actually renewed my interest in this forum, Ithought I might as >well >contribute once again after a year of lurkdom. > >I. The Television Personalities Website > >http://www.popfloor.com/tvps/ > >II. The Jazz Butcher Website > >http://www.jazzbutcher.com/ > >III. The Revolving Paint Dream / Biff Bang Pow! > >My humble approach on partly solving the relative mystery that was The >Revolving Paint Dream can still be found in the archives ... > >http://www.twee.net/shalala/199903/msg00011.html > >To the best of my memory, Andrew Innes and Christine Wanless are also >credited on the sleeve of the second Biff Bang Pow! LP, _The Girl That Runs >The Beat Hotel_. Fair enough considering that "Someone Stole My Wheels", >"The Happiest Girl In The World" and "If I Die" are basically Revolving >Paint Dream songs. In fact, the cancelled second Revolving Paint Dream 7" >sheduled for September '84 (!) was supposed to feature both "Wheels On My >Scooter" (= "Someone Stole My Wheels") and "Sunny Days" in exactly the same >versions that appeared a couple of years later on the "Someone Stole My >Wheels" 7"/12" under the moniker of J.C. Brouchard With Biff Bang Pow!. >More >recently I learned from David Musker (The Televison Personalities / Jasmine >Minks / Slaughter Joe) that he also played on a fair share of Revolving >Paint Dream recordings. > >Besides, is anyone in the possession of the demos by Christine's other band >at the time, The Formica Tops (who were also supposed to release a single >on >Creation Records back in the early days) ? Only thought I'd ask again now >that the number of subscribers has increased considerably, I'd love a copy >of said recordings (and any unissued stuff by The Revolving Paint Dream, >for >that matter). > >IV. The Pretty Flowers / The Boy Hairdressers / The Clouds > >The Pretty Flowers preceded The BMX Bandits and featured Duglas T. Stewart, >Sean Dickson (The BMX Bandits / The Soup Dragons / High Fidelity), Norman >Blake (The BMX Bandits / The Boy Hairdressers / The Clouds / Teenage >Fanclub >/ The Famous Monsters) and Duglas' early muse Frances McKee (The Vaselines >/ >Suckle). A couple of lines on the history of the short-lived combo can be >found in the liner notes of "The 53rd & 3rd Years" retrospective LP/CD by >The BMX Bandits. In fact, songs like "E 102" and "Strawberry Sunday" were >old songs by The Pretty Flowers. After Frances broke Duglas' heart by >running off with Eugene Kelly (The Vaselines / Captain America / Eugenius), >Duglas, Norman and Sean continued as The BMX Bandits with Jim McCulloch, >Joe >McAlinden (The Boy Hairdressers / The Groovy Little Numbers / Superstar) >and >Francis MacDonald (who played in numerous other Glaswegian bands, most >notably The Boy Hairdressers, Teenage Fanclub and The Pastels). > >The Boy Hairdressers was the delightful and humorous side project of >Norman, >Joe and Francis which also featured Raymond McGinley (Teenage Fanclub) and >Jim Lambie. In short, The Boy Hairdressers was an early incarnation of >Teenage Fanclub. Unfortunately they only released the much sought after >"Golden Shower" b/w "Tidalwave" c/w "The Assumption As An Elevator" 12" >(UK/53rd & 3rd Records AGARR 12T/1987). As was already mentioned, "The >Assumption As An Elevator" can also be found on the less scarce _Another >Ideal Guesthouse_ LP and the _Fun While It Lasted_ CD. It might well be >that >"Primary Education" and "Speedster" from the "Everything Flows" debut 7" by >Teenage Fanclub were originally recorded as demos for The Boy Hairdressers >during a later stage of their existence, but those songs are certainly no >indication of what can be expected from the marvellous "Golden Showers" >12". > >It is accurate that Norman Blake was in The Clouds, but The Charnley >Brothers (who are not exactly held in high regard in Glasgow from what I've >heard) chose not to credit him for the contribution in the studio (guitar >and background vocals). I witnessed a decent live show by one of the >subsequent bands of The Charnley Brothers in Glasgow back in 1994, but I >doubt they released a record under the moniker at the time. > >IV. The Sea Urchins / Delta > >The Sea Urchins were my favourite Sarah Records band and I strongly >encourage anyone without a copy to trace down the _Stardust_ retrospective >LP/CD and the "Recorded 30.10.88" 7". I'd also like to mention that, in my >humble opinion, Delta is certainly worth a listen. Songs such as "Tonight" >and "Take Away My Pain" from the "Gun" CDs are amongst the most beloved >melancholic ballads in my record collection and pretty much in the vein of >the "Recorded 30.10.88" 7" by The Sea Urchins. It seems that the debut >album >by Delta is imminent for release, let's hope it is more consistent than the >_Laughing Mostly_ CD. > >V. The Golden Dawn / The Catalysts / Meth O.D. > The Golden Dawn - Luminous 7" > >The 2 songs on the 7" were also available on compilations : No Reason Why on: Airspace II - The Sequel (LP) and Luminous on: And They Call It Pop (K7) on Fragrant (thanks to tweenet). > >Unfortunately I haven't obtained my copy of the "Luminous" 7" from Heaven >Records yet, but I trust that the flipside features the full version of "No >Reason Why" rather than the "edited" (read: fucked up) version that can be >found on the _Airspace II_ LP. > >Tweenet also lists the following track by the GD >Chase My Blues Away on and Fire on : Everlasting Happiness (K7) >and The Sun Never Shines on: The Velvet Dawn Flexi (FLX) on Raving >Pop Blast! Records (1989) > >"Chase My Blues Away" and "Fire" are my favourite songs by The Golden Dawn, >that's why they were featured on my humble "Everlasting Happiness" >compilation-tape. "The Sun Never Shines" is a poor recording of a decent >song which was featured on the flexi without the consent of The Golden Dawn >(unless you count in the consent of a former bass player). > >I happen to know this kind of trivia because singer and songwriter Robert >Smith was a penfriend back in the day, last I heard *from* Robert >personally >(owing the simultaneous move of house) in 1992 was that he founded a band >called Sed-ee-ment. Funnily enough, that's not the last I heard *about* and >saw *of* Robert. During my Glaswegian studies back in 1994/95 I was >introduced to a fellow in King Tut's Wah Wah Hut by a common acquaintance. >The fellow asked about my motivations for studying in Glasgow, which were >naturally my musical preferences. Following the enquiry about bands I named >the usual suspects and finally added The Golden Dawn. After catching his >breath with excitement that I even knew The Golden Dawn and the fact that >they hailed from Glasgow, the fellow made himself known as Kenneth "Kennie" >Norrie, formerly guitarist of The Golden Dawn and Christine's Cat (a side >project of The Golden Dawn who only issued the flexi on Sarah Records). >Unfortunately Kennie hadn't been in touch with Robert for a long time, but >he knew that Robert played in a band called Meth O. D. - coincidentally, I >attended a (passable) Meth O. D. live show only a couple of days prior to >that night. And as if the world wasn't small enough, the acquaintance who >introduced me to Kennie that night is by now the most appreciated >Glaswegian >P!O!P! songwriter since Donovan. The offspring of that night is a complete >collection of recordings by The Golden Dawn as well as extremely lovely and >jangly demos by one of Kennie's other bands at the time, The Catalysts. A >couple of years later I saw releases by Meth O. D. in a record catalogue >and >naturally placed an order, but while it was the same band I'm afraid to say >that their music is certainly not my cup of tea, which is a pity >considering >my fondness for The Golden Dawn. > >_They Could Have Been Bigger Than The Jesus And Mary Chain_ > > Andreas > > The rain it raineth on the just > And also on the unjust fella > But more upon the just because >The unjust steals the just's umbrella > > (Charles Baron Bowen) > >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ I spent a lonely day in Hull waiting for the Sea Urchins to play the Adelphi way back when. I sat at the table next to them and I still feel stupid for not gathering enough courage to just walk up and say 'hi, I came all the way But I didn't. But too this dayt I still force Aerospace to play 'more like the Sea Urchins' and 'none of that Harvest Ministers-isms'. The Sea Urchins were the toughest band alive in my world back then. And they still are. . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ take your blinkers off, they played pub hendrix covers live, not good >From: "Torbjörn Thorsen" >Reply-To: "Torbjörn Thorsen" >To: shalala@--hidden-- >Subject: Re: Shalala: "Swinging With The Pygmies" # 05 >Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:51:46 CEST > >I spent a lonely day in Hull waiting for the Sea Urchins to play the >Adelphi >way back when. I sat at the table next to them and I still feel stupid for >not gathering enough courage to just walk up and say 'hi, I came all the >way >from sweden to see you play'. > >But I didn't. > >But too this dayt I still force Aerospace to play 'more like the Sea >Urchins' and 'none of that Harvest Ministers-isms'. The Sea Urchins were >the >toughest band alive in my world back then. And they still are. > >. > > > > >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > _________________________________________________________________________ . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ Ah, but they would dress up as John's Children & play 'Desdemona', & they also covered 'You're Too Much' by the Eyes. So they can be forgiven, wouldn't you say? HarveyW ----- Original Message ----- To: ; Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 11:58 AM > take your blinkers off, they played pub hendrix covers live, not good > > From: "Torbjörn Thorsen" Reply-To: "Torbjörn Thorsen" To: shalala@--hidden-- Subject: Re: Shalala: "Swinging With The Pygmies" # 05 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:51:46 CEST > >I spent a lonely day in Hull waiting for the Sea Urchins to play the Adelphi way back when. I sat at the table next to them and I still feel stupid for not gathering enough courage to just walk up and say 'hi, I came all the way from sweden to see you play'. > >But I didn't. > >But too this dayt I still force Aerospace to play 'more like the Sea Urchins' and 'none of that Harvest Ministers-isms'. The Sea Urchins were the toughest band alive in my world back then. And they still are. > >. > > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > > > . > > > > > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ anyone want to tape me some sea urchins and stuff by the orchids? i can reply with felt, jazz butcher, jasmine minks, hurrah!, hefner, belle and sebastian, go-betweens, ride or some mean alt country > or whatever... that'll be swell, cheers, julian. --- Perfection As A Hipster wrote: > For what's it worth, > > seing that The Jedrzej Dmochowski Appreciation > Society is now a public > mailing list not restricted to a chosen few and that > a couple of recent > threads actually renewed my interest in this forum, > Ithought I might as well > contribute once again after a year of lurkdom. > > I. The Television Personalities Website > > http://www.popfloor.com/tvps/ > > II. The Jazz Butcher Website > > http://www.jazzbutcher.com/ > > III. The Revolving Paint Dream / Biff Bang Pow! > > My humble approach on partly solving the relative > mystery that was The > Revolving Paint Dream can still be found in the > archives ... > > http://www.twee.net/shalala/199903/msg00011.html > > To the best of my memory, Andrew Innes and Christine > Wanless are also > credited on the sleeve of the second Biff Bang Pow! > LP, _The Girl That Runs > The Beat Hotel_. Fair enough considering that > "Someone Stole My Wheels", > "The Happiest Girl In The World" and "If I Die" are > basically Revolving > Paint Dream songs. In fact, the cancelled second > Revolving Paint Dream 7" > sheduled for September '84 (!) was supposed to > feature both "Wheels On My > Scooter" (= "Someone Stole My Wheels") and "Sunny > Days" in exactly the same > versions that appeared a couple of years later on > the "Someone Stole My > Wheels" 7"/12" under the moniker of J.C. Brouchard > With Biff Bang Pow!. More > recently I learned from David Musker (The Televison > Personalities / Jasmine > Minks / Slaughter Joe) that he also played on a fair > share of Revolving > Paint Dream recordings. > > Besides, is anyone in the possession of the demos by > Christine's other band > at the time, The Formica Tops (who were also > supposed to release a single on > Creation Records back in the early days) ? Only > thought I'd ask again now > that the number of subscribers has increased > considerably, I'd love a copy > of said recordings (and any unissued stuff by The > Revolving Paint Dream, for > that matter). > > IV. The Pretty Flowers / The Boy Hairdressers / The > Clouds > > The Pretty Flowers preceded The BMX Bandits and > featured Duglas T. Stewart, > Sean Dickson (The BMX Bandits / The Soup Dragons / > High Fidelity), Norman > Blake (The BMX Bandits / The Boy Hairdressers / The > Clouds / Teenage Fanclub > / The Famous Monsters) and Duglas' early muse > Frances McKee (The Vaselines / > Suckle). A couple of lines on the history of the > short-lived combo can be > found in the liner notes of "The 53rd & 3rd Years" > retrospective LP/CD by > The BMX Bandits. In fact, songs like "E 102" and > "Strawberry Sunday" were > old songs by The Pretty Flowers. After Frances broke > Duglas' heart by > running off with Eugene Kelly (The Vaselines / > Captain America / Eugenius), > Duglas, Norman and Sean continued as The BMX Bandits > with Jim McCulloch, Joe > McAlinden (The Boy Hairdressers / The Groovy Little > Numbers / Superstar) and > Francis MacDonald (who played in numerous other > Glaswegian bands, most > notably The Boy Hairdressers, Teenage Fanclub and > The Pastels). > > The Boy Hairdressers was the delightful and humorous > side project of Norman, > Joe and Francis which also featured Raymond McGinley > (Teenage Fanclub) and > Jim Lambie. In short, The Boy Hairdressers was an > early incarnation of > Teenage Fanclub. Unfortunately they only released > the much sought after > "Golden Shower" b/w "Tidalwave" c/w "The Assumption > As An Elevator" 12" > (UK/53rd & 3rd Records AGARR 12T/1987). As was > already mentioned, "The > Assumption As An Elevator" can also be found on the > less scarce _Another > Ideal Guesthouse_ LP and the _Fun While It Lasted_ > CD. It might well be that > "Primary Education" and "Speedster" from the > "Everything Flows" debut 7" by > Teenage Fanclub were originally recorded as demos > for The Boy Hairdressers > during a later stage of their existence, but those > songs are certainly no > indication of what can be expected from the > marvellous "Golden Showers" 12". > > It is accurate that Norman Blake was in The Clouds, > but The Charnley > Brothers (who are not exactly held in high regard in > Glasgow from what I've > heard) chose not to credit him for the contribution > in the studio (guitar > and background vocals). I witnessed a decent live > show by one of the > subsequent bands of The Charnley Brothers in Glasgow > back in 1994, but I > doubt they released a record under the moniker at > the time. > > IV. The Sea Urchins / Delta > > The Sea Urchins were my favourite Sarah Records band > and I strongly > encourage anyone without a copy to trace down the > _Stardust_ retrospective > LP/CD and the "Recorded 30.10.88" 7". I'd also like > to mention that, in my > humble opinion, Delta is certainly worth a listen. > Songs such as "Tonight" > and "Take Away My Pain" from the "Gun" CDs are > amongst the most beloved > melancholic ballads in my record collection and > pretty much in the vein of > the "Recorded 30.10.88" 7" by The Sea Urchins. It > seems that the debut album > by Delta is imminent for release, let's hope it is > more consistent than the > _Laughing Mostly_ CD. > > V. The Golden Dawn / The Catalysts / Meth O.D. > The Golden Dawn - Luminous 7" > >The 2 songs on the 7" were also available on > compilations : No Reason Why on: Airspace II - The Sequel (LP) and > Luminous on: And They Call It Pop (K7) on Fragrant (thanks to tweenet). > > Unfortunately I haven't obtained my copy of the > "Luminous" 7" from Heaven > Records yet, but I trust that the flipside features > the full version of "No > Reason Why" rather than the "edited" (read: fucked > up) version that can be > found on the _Airspace II_ LP. > >Tweenet also lists the following track by the GD >Chase My Blues Away on and Fire on : Everlasting > Happiness (K7) >and The Sun Never Shines on: The Velvet Dawn Flexi > (FLX) on Raving >Pop Blast! Records (1989) > > "Chase My Blues Away" and "Fire" are my favourite > songs by The Golden Dawn, > that's why they were featured on my humble > "Everlasting Happiness" > compilation-tape. "The Sun Never Shines" is a poor > recording of a decent > song which was featured on the flexi without the > consent of The Golden Dawn > (unless you count in the consent of a former bass > player). > > I happen to know this kind of trivia because singer > and songwriter Robert > Smith was a penfriend back in the day, last I heard > *from* Robert personally > (owing the simultaneous move of house) in 1992 was > that he founded a band > called Sed-ee-ment. Funnily enough, that's not the > last I heard *about* and > saw *of* Robert. During my Glaswegian studies back > in 1994/95 I was > introduced to a fellow in King Tut's Wah Wah Hut by > a common acquaintance. > The fellow asked about my motivations for studying > in === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ And they played their pubrock with floppy fringes and the most beautifully tied scarves around their neck (an art that I never ever mastered). Gonno get some chelsea boots and scarves and start a revolution in the streets of Stockholm. ---->> Toby >Ah, but they would dress up as John's Children & play 'Desdemona', & they >also covered 'You're Too Much' by the Eyes. So they can be forgiven, >wouldn't you say? > >HarveyW > >----- Original Message ----- >From: andy hitchcock >To: ; >Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 11:58 AM >Subject: Re: Shalala: "Swinging With The Pygmies" # 05 > > take your blinkers off, they played pub hendrix covers live, not good > >From: "Torbjörn Thorsen" >Reply-To: "Torbjörn Thorsen" >To: shalala@--hidden-- >Subject: Re: Shalala: "Swinging With The Pygmies" # 05 >Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:51:46 CEST >I spent a lonely day in Hull waiting for the Sea Urchins to play the >Adelphi >way back when. I sat at the table next to them and I still feel stupid >for >not gathering enough courage to just walk up and say 'hi, I came all >the >way >from sweden to see you play'. >But I didn't. >But too this dayt I still force Aerospace to play 'more like the Sea >Urchins' and 'none of that Harvest Ministers-isms'. The Sea Urchins >were >the >toughest band alive in my world back then. And they still are. > > > > >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > > > > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > >more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ it's all gone heavy again... -- Melbournian pop charmer and sometime Lucksmith DARREN HANLON -- DC jangle pack THE SATURDAY PEOPLE at The GALAXY HUT, Arlington on MONDAY, Sept. 25th. This is free show starting around 8:30ish and ending early. * Saturday People info/sound files at http://www.dropbeat.com/slrland/slr60.html * Darren Hanlon details at www.candlerecords.com.au * Galaxy Hut = www.galaxyhut.com more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ The Darren Hanlon LP is amazing and live in Seattle he was fantastic. I encourage everyone who can to go to see him at the Galaxy Hut!!!!! stu more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ hey > what are the lucksmiths like? i read somewhere some one comparing the steinbecks with them. are they that good? julian. --- Snowdome01@--hidden-- wrote: > it's all gone heavy again... > > -- Melbournian pop charmer and sometime Lucksmith > DARREN HANLON > -- DC jangle pack THE SATURDAY PEOPLE > > at The GALAXY HUT, Arlington on MONDAY, Sept. 25th. > This is free show starting around 8:30ish and ending > early. > > * Saturday People info/sound files at > http://www.dropbeat.com/slrland/slr60.html > * Darren Hanlon details at www.candlerecords.com.au > * Galaxy Hut = www.galaxyhut.com > > > The Shalala mailing list - write to: > shalala@--hidden-- > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > __________________________________________________ Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ Can you please change my email address for the list to silerian@--hidden-- Thank you in advance, sheila ryan Attachment 525 bytes So I've spent the better part of today listening to "Go With Yourself (The Fingertip Sessions Vol. II) by Brave Captain aka Martin Carr of the Boo Radleys. After the first two tracks that I don't think cut it, the rest of the album is a wonderful pastiche of sound of color. Tracks like "Where Is My Head" have an ace "Pipers At The Gates Of Dawn" kind of Pink Floyd sound to it and there are these Jon Hassell like trumpets on "Ein Hoff Le" which make me shiver. "Reuben" maybe the biggest pop hit for Martin since "Wake Up Boo"!!! You should all be looking out for this record. Matthew Kaplan more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ I have a different version of the peter astor song submarine on a creation comp from 1991 titled "American Pensioners on Ecstasy". Can anyone tell me who the female singer on it is? It sounds alot like tracey thorn but i think it's heidi berry. thanks, sile Attachment 652 bytes I'm not sure, but considering how much work he has done with Berry, that would be my bet... . more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ anyone know where i can find an accurate dexy's discography? all the websites i can find are really shitty. ===== Matt Roberts resides in San Francisco, California. He is a ramblin man. For a prompt response, sometimes it can be helpful to also email him at matt@--hidden-- and/or mattr@--hidden--. __________________________________________________ Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ certainly not. julian. --- Matt Roberts wrote: > anyone know where i can find an accurate dexy's > discography? > > all the websites i can find are really shitty. > > ===== > Matt Roberts resides in San Francisco, California. > He is a ramblin man. > For a prompt response, sometimes it can be helpful > to also > email him at matt@--hidden-- and/or > mattr@--hidden--. > > __________________________________________________ > > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! > Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > The Shalala mailing list - write to: > shalala@--hidden-- > more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ > __________________________________________________ Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ A fall pop show... THE RELICT (ex-Clientele) over from england... think nick drake, go-betweens, felt; new single on Smashing Time... with DC janglists THE SATURDAY PEOPLE, featuring the return of the Mighty Dan Searing to the drummer's throne... Thursday, Sept. 28 @ The Metro, 14th st nw, Washington DC (a few blocks down from The Black Cat) $5 at the door. 8pm-ish. The Relict = www.therelict.co.uk The Saturday People = www.dropbeat.com/slrland/slr60.html more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ any news on what former lush singer miki berenyi is up to these days? does she have a new band and do they have an album out? do you know where i can find recent photos of versus? the ones they have on merge records and caroline are kinda dated. thanks!!! more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ ----- Original Message ----- > any news on what former lush singer miki berenyi is up to these days? > does she have a new band and do they have an album out? Miki is supposedly somewhere on the new Moose album, to judge by the liner notes, though it doesn't say exactly where. She also had a singing part on one song on the last Rentals album. Other than that, I don't know of anything she's been doing lately. I don't think she has a new band, though. Emma from Lush is in a band called Sing-Sing who seem to put out about one single a year or something like that. Good dance-pop St. Etienne-y kind of stuff produced by Mark Van Hoen. Andrew more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/ Please change my email address from poptonesboy@--hidden-- to creationboy@--hidden-- Creation is no longer supported by my listen.to/poptones site but by my new site run.to/creation The Creation Hub. more info: http://www.twee.net/shalala/